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Peacemaking And Community Building: Vlog 34

6/15/2020

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Trudy Ingram
6/15/2020 06:05:41 pm

The Different Drum! One of my all time beloved books, I'm looking at it on my bookshelf as we speak! I was so taken with Peck's community building model, I attended 2 community building workshops back in the mid-1990s. No group I've been in, before or since, large or small, has ever come close to that experience--although many facilitators claim to build community. It's impossible to describe how a group of strangers goes through the sometimes very difficult stages of community building to emerge as a whole, completely different, in peace and trust. For me that's the starting place for any meaningful and inclusive decision-making process, the foundation that you spoke about. How to facilitate that online is trickier, but I know a group in Tennessee that is experimenting with that (they trained and worked with Scott Peck for many years). You can check out Community Building Institute at https://communitybuilding.com/

Thank you for posting this--it gives me hope to learn that you've heard of this process and want to incorporate it somehow into your business. I'm interested in hearing more about your plans.

Trudy

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michael link
6/16/2020 05:23:38 am

Trudy, Wow. That's amazing. Oddly enough, the book was suggest to me by elder almost 20 years ago. I must have read it a does times. It so perfectly aligned with what I had been taught by my own mentors that it really stuck with me.

"Community" is an integral part of mentoring. Yes. many groups claim it but often are refusing to being on the same space with one another. Unfortunately, I think the for many, that's what they believe it is. I've been lucky enough to have had several experiences that more closely reflect Peck's work, and so, It's really become my standard.

It's really exciting for me to hear your experience. Thank you for sharing.

M

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Davd
6/15/2020 08:31:22 pm

Loved, loved, loved this video. Appreciated your way of talking about concepts in a way that was highly relevant, all without feeling like you were telling me "this is THE way to fix everything." Been hearing lots of that recently, so it was refreshing and timely seeing your approach. The emptiness state you mentioned got me thinking. Can a community engage in emptiness if members personally aren't comfortable with being in that state on an individual level? I haven't read The Different Drum, but I plan to. Anyway, I was just thinking that the idea of embracing discomfort, even so-called unpleasant feelings is something I personally struggled with for a while as so many messages these days, especially the sound bite wisdom that's so popular, can make it seem like discomfort is reflective of being too negative, of seeing the glass half-empty. So I was just wondering if a community space, of being energetically connected in proximity to others, can help people who might otherwise individually not be open to engaging the emptiness on either a personal or group level. Would be curious your thoughts on this.

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Michael
6/16/2020 05:44:05 am

David
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you experience the video and information the way you did. The last thing I want to do is claim, "This is the way."

Great question - "Can community engage in emptiness if its members personally aren't comfortable on a personal level?"

My thoughts:

- Yes. So long as they allow the discomfort anyway. Remember, the initial discomfort people feel in the chaos stage tends to lead them to organize, make rules and structures which is not real community.

-The alternative is that they feel the discomfort rather than run from it, and explore whats really there. This is the path to emptiness or stillness if you will. On the other side of the is true community.

- If what your asking is - do all the members of a group need to engage in emptiness for community to emerge? In my own experience, I have been a member of what I would call a true community while individual struggled with different stages of the process. I suspect by Pecks definition, true community requires all of its member to be in the same final stage (Community) for it to be a true community but I would argue that. As long as their is a healthy majority of people in that final stage, they can often "hold space" while individuals struggle to make their way through. But Peck might disagree with me.

Great question, David. Thanks for asking. Let me know what you think of the book after reading it.

Best

M

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